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EP210: Embracing The Gray: A Conversation with Beauty Icon Claudia Fabian

Amy Schmidt Season 3 Episode 209

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Beauty icon Claudia Fabian discusses her journey from coloring her first gray hair at 30 to embracing her natural silver locks and building a second career as a pro-aging influencer.

• Getting first gray hair at 30 and initially covering it for years
• How the pandemic lockdowns sparked a gray hair revolution
• Reframing aging as a privilege rather than something to fear
• Changing "I have to" statements to "I get to" statements
• Finding confidence and peace in your 50s that wasn't possible in your 20s
• The beauty industry's problem with ignoring older women
• Using "makeup meditation" as a daily self-affirmation practice
• How women can support each other through compliments and community
• Finding inspiration in mothers and mentors who came before us
• Treating yourself as a "guest of honor" in your own life
• Finding and sharing your authentic gifts as life's purpose

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Meeting Claudia Fabian: Beauty Icon

Speaker 1

Hey , fearless Friends , it's Amy Schmidt and welcome to another episode of the Fearlessly Facing 50 and Beyond podcast . So today , the F word . Let's hear the drum roll . Here we go . Yeah , we are Fearlessly Facing 50s . All right , I'm right there with this guest . And you know what ? She's pretty amazing . She's an icon in the beauty world , really . And you know what ? She got her first gray hair at 30 . Yeah , yeah , we're going to talk about all these things . She's basically got sparkling silvers that are lighting up the world with her pro-aging encouragement . So come along for the gray hair inspiration today and meet my guest , claudia Fabian . All right , so here we are . You heard in the intro , I got a pretty amazing guest today and you know , when she went on camera and we started rolling here , I was like , wow , you look fabulous . Look at you , claudia , you look amazing .

Speaker 2

Well , thank you and thanks for having me . I'm really excited to have this conversation , which I think is so important , and you know I can talk about this topic all day long .

Speaker 1

I know , isn't it amazing . I always feel like , you know , as we age , I think to my mom a lot of times . Now I'm well into my 50s , but when I first launched my brand , you know , I was thinking back to when my mom was 50 . And I remember the day because I remember kind of helping her put a pearl necklace on because she was having a 50th birthday party , and then I kind of look where I am and I'm like , yeah , and my mom passed away in 2015 , sadly , but my 50s is very different from her 50s .

Speaker 1

You know , I feel I had this conversation recently with a woman and I said , you know , I think I might just have more confidence than my mom had . I think we're more confident , more confident Gen Xers . What do you feel about that ?

Speaker 2

I would have to agree with that . I think that our generation has a that dichotomy of tradition and old school way of doing things and our generation has kind of broken some of those molds , thankfully , and I feel like we're paving the way for younger women to not fear getting older and I'm really happy to be part of that movement . I mean , to me it's like I said , it's a passion of mine and I can talk about it all day .

Speaker 1

And it is really a movement I want you to talk to me a little bit about , because we talk a little bit . Let's just go back a little bit here and meet Claudia when she was in her 30s and , like you know , take me back . I was reading an article . I think you maybe wrote an article , or there was a blog post or something that talked about I had my first gray hair in my 30s .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I mean , I think , you know , a lot of women get gray hair in their 20s , you know , they start seeing gray hair . It's , it's nothing to be ashamed of . But I think when you're in your 20s and 30s , I mean I was working in the salon and spa industry , so it was nothing to color our hair , that's what we did , that was my occupation was working in beauty . So I've had all different color hair highlighted , you know , whatever covered the grays .

Speaker 2

And you know , when I first saw my gray hair , my dad went gray , very similar to mine , and he went gray in his 30s . But for men , you know , when I first saw my gray hair , my dad went gray , very similar to mine , and he went gray in his 30s . But for men , you know , that's , yeah , it's , you know , much more acceptable . And when I first saw my gray , I was like , oh no , like I inherited my dad's gray hair . So you know , of course I colored it for many years and really thought that I would be coloring my hair until I died . Like I was steadfast , like yeah , I'm going to , you know , bury me with my roots colored . And here we are today I have a whole second career because I embraced my gray hair .

Speaker 1

Go figure , yeah so , and it looks so beautiful and I see more and more women , I mean I don't want to say it's a trend , but I do see more and more women , maybe since 2020 .

Speaker 2

I think 2020 did definitely sparked people not having access to hair salons . So , yes , they started to embrace their gray and thought you know what ? I kind of like this , and so I think that definitely was the start of it , but I think , even more recently , with celebrities starting to embrace their gray , now it's really even more so catching on , which I think is wonderful .

Speaker 1

It's fabulous . So , you know , let's talk about aging , because there's a lot around pro-aging and you know all of that type of thing , and I love that because aging is such a privilege , right . I mean , every day we wake up and it's like this is amazing . But there's so many people and there might be people listening right now or that are watching and are saying , man , I just I'm really frustrated . I'm frustrated because I get up and I'm slower out of bed . You know , I have a little bit more tenderness in my joints . I look in the mirror and I see , you know , it's like woe is me every day , and there are parts of me too that some days it's like all right , I would rather stay in bed and I just don't want to tackle this today . But I get up , get dressed , get going . You have to . But for those that are listening and are really struggling , give us some tips on how we can just age fearlessly and boldly . Age fearlessly and boldly .

Speaker 2

Well , I will start the conversation by saying granted , we don't love everything about getting older . I mean , I think you know let's just call it what it is I mean , a lot of it is amazing , but a lot of it sucks . You know , you kind of see your old self slipping away physically . Yes , you have sore joints . You know , you're maybe in menopause . That's a whole nother podcast episode . But yes , let's remember , this is what I tell myself . Let's remember I didn't love everything about being young either .

Speaker 2

Every decade has its gifts and challenges , and so what was was right , we lived it , we had a good time . This is a new era . So , rather than trying to compare it to what was ,

First Gray Hair at 30

Speaker 2

appreciate it for what is . There are so many gifts that come with age , things that I now would not trade for . Perk your boobs . Let's just say that , right , yeah , yeah , love it . Let's just say that right , yeah , yeah , love it .

Speaker 2

My confidence , my sense of really knowing who I am , my you know , my peace that I have now at this stage in life , I would not trade that to go back to my 20s or 30s Now , that's not to say that there weren't great things about being 20 and 30 . But that's it . I think we have to just learn to love every decade . But that's it . I think we have to just learn to love every decade . And that's really why I named my Instagram page the Beauty Debut , because I think beauty is different in every decade and we kind of reveal and debut a new version of ourself every decade .

Speaker 2

So I think again , rather than trying to hold on to what was , appreciate what is and the gifts and yes , there are going to be some things you're like oh , my back hurts now . Oh , I can't , you know , I can't run as fast as I used to , or whatever it is that you're lamenting about but I think that it's important to remember that , yeah , that happens , it's part of life . You know , aging is part of the life experience . This is a life experience we're having , and I look at it that way . So I think it's more about your mindset than anything else . You know , your mindset has to be in a place of peace .

Speaker 1

I love that . It does have to be in a sense of peace . It does . And I think , right along with that mindset reframe is the fact that , you know , I had on a woman years ago on my show and she's a friend of mine , but she actually lost her son in the Sandy Hook school shooting years ago and she was on the show and she was talking about just life and reframing narratives . Narratives , and one of the things she said that is so powerful , and certainly many have said it since , is you change those ? I have to's to . I get to , you know , I get to wake up , I get to do the things because I'm aging and because I'm getting older , but I get to do those and I think that goes along with what you were just saying . You know we get to do this .

Speaker 2

Yeah , we are fortunate , like you said , to have this aging experience , because what's the alternative ? You're not aging yeah .

Speaker 1

what's the alternative ?

Speaker 2

Yeah you're not living . So this is all part of the journey and the life experience and I think that I'm enjoying this decade of my 50s immensely and I'm hoping that I'll be enjoying my 60s and whatever you know , the universe has in store for me , whatever my life path will be . But I don't like to look back . I think that's where you can really kind of get stuck thinking oh , look at me here , you know . Oh , look at my skin , look at this . It's like what is the point in that ?

Speaker 1

it kind of steals joy from the present moment of that whole phase of life in your 20s , when you're trying to get further faster . You know you're saying I can do it by myself . I can do it so much better alone because I'm in control of it .

Speaker 1

And it'll get done right . It'll get done the right way if I do it . And then there's this narrative shift and I think , in our 50s especially , I certainly have decided that I'm going to use my resources , I'm going to collaborate with incredible women . I want to meet somebody like you , claudia .

Speaker 2

I want to learn from you and there really is a shift around that , don't you think ? Yeah , I think there is . I think that again we're talking about every decade has its gifts , right . So she's in that like phase of trying to get ahead , trying to figure out life . You know , you think when you're in your 20s and 30s that you don't have a lot of time , like we have to hurry up and have all these experiences .

Speaker 2

And what's really nice is when you reach a destination in your 40s and 50s , you're like I don't know , time just feels different . And to me now , you know , this last half of my life is going to be the best half of my life and that's how I move in the world and that's how I move forward . And I'm not in a rush because I think everything happens at the right time when it's supposed to . For you and I didn't know that or didn't have that in my inner knowing in my soul when I was in my 20s You're so worried about what others think too . When you're young , you're trying to fit in as much as possible . Being different isn't always celebrated when you're in your 20s so , like I said , I wouldn't want

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Speaker 2

to go back to that time . I love it for your daughter and I think it's great and she's having her own experience . But I don't envy that .

Speaker 1

Right , I would agree with you 100% . I wouldn't want to go back either . I really wouldn't . Right , I would agree with you 100% . I wouldn't want to go back either . I really wouldn't . I've learned so much more , you know .

Speaker 1

I also think there's and I'd love to get your perspective on this , because I love that there is such a spotlight on 50s and beyond , and there is , there is a spotlight right now that is shining on this generation .

Speaker 1

You know , menopausal women , perimenopause , menopause and postmenopause . It's fabulous , but there also comes along with that , I think , a sense of pressure and what I mean by that , and I hope I can articulate it properly , because I'd love to get your perspective . I kind of take it back to middle school , like if you're walking the middle school hallways and you see somebody that you know made the cheerleading squad and they're a straight-A student and they're doing all these things and they're student council president , everything seems to be kind of aligning for them . And then there's a few that might have acne and are a little bit more shy and they just have a problem . They just don't feel confident . I worry a bit , when there's such a spotlight on us in our 50s and beyond , that there are some that are feeling very intimidated because they're having a hard time figuring out their next . They don't want to write a book , they don't want to be in the spotlight and be an influencer , but they want to do something for them . But they get stuck .

Speaker 2

Can you see what I mean a little bit . Oh , I love that . I would have to agree .

Speaker 2

I think that when we scroll through Instagram and we see women in their 50s being celebrated , you know I will say it's kind of . There is a certain type that gets celebrated . It's tall , thin , right , thin sometimes , you know , still coloring their hair , thin , sometimes , you know , still coloring their hair . We're still , as a society , holding on to . I'm going to celebrate this person because she looks young , right , looks young for 50 . Yep , and so this type of person can be celebrated because , wow , look at how she looks right , where the majority of women in their 50s aren't tall and thin .

Speaker 2

You know , we're going through menopause , you have a belly , your boobs are shifting the position of the body , you know , and I think that we , the more of us that do put ourself out there because I'm not that tall , thin person I never was , I never will be but I think when we can find people on Instagram that look like us , that we can relate to in some fashion , I think that really helps and I think the more of us that are coming forward and putting ourselves out there is really better for the whole of everybody , because aging looks different on everybody .

Speaker 2

I get critiques sometimes on social saying , oh , you've had work done , you've had this done , you know . And I think we forget in our society that everyone does age different and it's okay , it's not a right or wrong . And I think we forget too what a real aging face looks like , because we've been . I mean , there's filters , people have gotten , you know , cosmetic enhancements as they age , and so we forget what does a real aging person look like ? What does a real aging , you know 50 year old or so look like ? And I think it's . You know we're still a little twisted in the way that we view aging , that we're only going to celebrate those that look younger or we're only going to applaud the women that have been able to maintain a slim physique .

Speaker 1

I have to agree with you on that .

Speaker 2

I think that there's still a lot of room for change and even though we're being elevated and celebrated , marketing and the beauty industry ignores us completely . So we still have a lot of work to do . You know we don't see ourselves even in . I was shopping for clothes the other day online , and you know , shopping at a store , macy's let's just say online , there are no women our age modeling clothes , right , right , right . You know we still have a long way to go to be truly seen as not evaporated . You know you don't see any beauty ads with . You know , maybe here and there sprinkling , but overall it's , you know , an average 30 year old that's being featured , or a 25 year old . And you know that's where I'm trying to make some change in the beauty space . I love that Is how we see aging , more women being featured , and that's really , really important to me .

Speaker 1

It is . So I think I don't have a long way to go . I've got to be honest with you . I had my physical with the new doc where I'm living now and I've got to be honest . I went in . You know , you got to do the old remember the scale when they used to have to move that metal thing and it would go click , click oh it's horrible .

Speaker 2

You just wanted it to stay .

Speaker 1

Yes , you wanted to stay at the quarter and then it moved to the half and you're like , oh damn it . But anyway , I I had to , you know , be measured and you got to stand at the wall and let your shoulders down and I'm like just fingers crossed , toes crossed , I'm still five , four and a half . Come on , I'm still fine . And she goes about five , five . I was like what ? Like I'm five , five . Now I'm really going to celebrate this . So it is funny , you do kind of . You know you go in and I still have a little bit of dread around the scale and things . But you know we've got to celebrate where we are and our stories , that we've got here and that's why I love what you're doing , just around pro-aging and embracing this stage .

Speaker 2

I do want to talk a bit about comparison you mentioned your daughter . She's 20 , right 27 . 20-year-olds are starting to be marketed to fear

Appreciating Each Decade's Gifts

Speaker 2

aging . They're telling these young women to get Botox to prevent age . That infuriates me , because when can we just be like ? Even being a 20 year old isn't good enough anymore . You have to start preparing not to get , not to look older Like . I'm so glad that you know . We grew up in a time where that wasn't a thing and we got to just enjoy being 20 and it was great .

Speaker 1

Right now , it's just so much pressure on women .

Speaker 1

You think about the photos and now the social media . I mean I still have my little senior picture and people would sign it on the back Hegs have a great summer . It was like that was it ? You had the little I mean . Now it is , and it is true about 20-year-olds it is . Now they're marketing Botox for 20-year-olds to be proactive for aging . It's crazy . I want to talk about , of course . Eleanor Roosevelt said comparison is a thief of joy . We've heard it a million times . How can we get past that ? Because we get stuck in that trap of comparing ourselves to others . How do you move past that ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , I think there's a turning point . It's nice to follow certain influencers or people on social or whoever it is that you get inspiration from . I think that's where inspiration is great . You know , I follow people that I'm . You know , like I was talking about fitness , right , I follow some 50 somethings that are just really into fitness and it motivates me . It's like , okay , I know I can do this . You know , maybe not to the extent that they're doing it , but it motivates me . So that's inspiration . Where it becomes negative is when you're feeling less than you're not feeling good about yourself because something , even if they're not meaning to do it you watching them makes you feel bad . That's where you have control , though . On social media , you can choose to unfollow people and nothing against them they haven't done anything wrong to you but you have to fill your feed with what ? And there's nothing wrong with protecting your mental well-being .

Speaker 1

Amen , there's nothing wrong with that ?

Speaker 2

That's like a life audit and a time audit .

Speaker 1

Yeah , there's nothing wrong with that . Yeah , and it's evaluating .

Speaker 2

You know I had unfollowing people because they made me feel like I wasn't where I should be in life . You know Exactly .

Speaker 1

And nothing against them .

Speaker 2

They're living their best life , but for me I had to like against them , they're living their best life , but for me I had to like mute them . I had to like I can't see that right now because I'm not in the headspace where I can take that on , so I think it's totally okay to curate your Instagram or what you're letting into your space .

Speaker 1

I love that . Yeah , I always say bless them and block them . That's what I do . I mean , it just is one of those things bless them and block them because it just isn't the right .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I know it sounds good .

Speaker 1

Well , we're not talking about trolls . Trolls are different . Yeah right , that's different , that's different . Let's talk about your routine a little bit that it's important to have routines . Is there kind of a beauty routine that you follow , a morning routine that you can share with us and somebody listening might go ? Okay , claudia , does that , I can do that .

Speaker 2

Well , here's the thing as an influencer guess what ? I'm not going to even mention one product or one cream or one serum or one makeup product that you need because you don't need it . It's fun to have , but you don't need it . Makeup product that you need because you don't need it it's fun to have , but you don't need it . When I get ready in the morning , I call it makeup meditation , and I know that sounds like it doesn't go together .

Speaker 2

But all of my life taking time in the morning , whether it's just putting on a lipstick or massaging and a face cream for the day , whatever , your limits are right that is the time that I personally and I recommend this to women that's like our only , sometimes our only time to quiet our mind . You're looking at yourself in the mirror , what you say to yourself in this five minute time , 10 minute time , whatever time you have so important to set your intention for the day . So , rather than looking in the mirror and be like , oh , when did this spot appear ? Or oh , look at my wrinkles . I don't do that and that has helped me mentally I look past that and I just tell myself you know , you got the day , you're beautiful , you know . Whatever I need to hear that day , or maybe in my mind . I'm kind of working through a life situation and I'm kind of working a conversation in my head how I'm going to say something . That is my meditation time .

Speaker 2

So I call it makeup meditation , you can call it skincare meditation , but this is a time to be loving to yourself . Tell yourself that you're a value , that you matter , that you count . I think that is such an important aspect in beauty and often not talked about . You know , people are selling us anti aging creams . People are selling us oh , this foundation will make your skin look good . All of that is fun . I see that as fun . I don't hold it to the value that maybe others do . I think it's more

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Speaker 2

important that , as your ritual , what are you thinking ? You thinking in your mind is most important , and that is the key to aging well , and what you hold true for yourself in your mind is really what shines through to other . You know that all your cells hear what you're saying . Your body hears what you're saying , so you gotta I would agree with that .

Speaker 1

It's such a challenge , claudia . It's such a challenge for so many to treat ourselves as a guest of honor . You know it is . I say it all the time . You've got to treat yourself as a guest of honor . When you have people in your home , you welcome them with love and kindness and generosity and all of those things , and we don't do it for ourselves . And now we've earned this part of our journey . I mean , we've earned this . We've earned . We should wear this aging as a badge of honor because it's pretty fabulous . But you're so right Just to take a few moments every day and just be present with yourself where you are in the moment . I love that . I think that's a great takeaway for people .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and to me that's the best beauty advice I can give . It's not about what you're putting on , it's really what you're telling yourself . And it took me a long time to learn that this wasn't something that I just have always known . I was very hard on myself and my youth and criticizing myself and putting myself down , and I think maybe someone out there can definitely relate to that . But there came a time in my life where and it really was , as I've embraced this aging , you know , really at the when I turned 50 , it's just like something really happened , shifted and I just started saying enough , enough of this like this is not serving me and it really has changed my life .

Speaker 2

It really has changed the way I see aging and the way I see myself and the way I feel about myself .

Speaker 1

And it shows . It shows how you carry yourself and that's so important . You know , it's just that you're a beautiful woman and you can tell beautiful inside and out . And following you on Instagram , which you know everyone that's watching and listening will . I'll have that on the episode notes , but I think it's just so encouraging for us because we need to have each other's back . I would love for you to walk me through . You mentioned earlier in this conversation that there have been times when there's been comments . I mean you're an influencer , people are looking at you and they're judging . You know they're all judging . I mean everybody's a judger at some point . They're judging you , they're judging this , they're judging that . How do you get your inner cheerleader back when your inner critic is really , really loud and you're looking at comments that people are putting and you're going ? I mean those have to affect you .

Speaker 2

Sometimes they sting when it comes from other women , when it's criticizing , you know , your gray hair or your choices about aging . But I think what I've learned about people being on social media is it's really more about them than it is about you . Sometimes people are triggered and that triggers their own ageist views or it triggers their own self hatred and they kind of spew it back at you . So I've learned just to really let most of that roll off . I mean , there's some days they get me and I'm like you know , back at them Because I'm human .

Speaker 2

You know right ? Yeah , overall , I let it roll off off and I leave the comments there . I don't delete them because , good for you , let others see what they're about , because I think , yes , we do judge each other and it's OK to scroll and you see something . Maybe you're like , oh , that looks terrible , look at her outfit , I don't like it . But you know what ? What ? What healthy people do is they keep scrolling . You know to to stop , to take time to put something mean on . Another woman's post to me says a lot more about them . If something isn't resonating with you , keep scrolling . Again , you're the curator of your Instagram , so you can decide what you want to see .

Speaker 1

Right , you want the power there , yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , when you know haters or trolls , whatever you want to call them , when they leave mean comments , I laugh to myself because I'm like guess what ? Now you're going to start seeing more of me and more women my age , because the algorithm says oh , you're engaging with this , you like this , Let me show you more . So I think it's hilarious , so go ahead comment , comment all you want .

Speaker 1

So last two questions what's really inspiring you right now ? Is there something , someone that's really your inspiration right now ?

Speaker 2

Well , you know , funny enough , I think my inspiration and I'm so blessed comes from my mother . My mother is always been my inspiration . You know , I am very fortunate to have such a close relationship with my mom and she inspires me Because I feel that , you know , now I appreciate her so much more than I did when I was a young woman .

Speaker 1

And .

Speaker 2

I know your daughter is going to feel that way about you as she gets older and has more life experience . And you know I love just sitting and talking with my mom and really seeing her not as my mom but as a woman that went through life , had struggles , you know , had to find her way , and I take inspiration from

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Speaker 2

learning about her journey and really seeing her as a person , not just seeing her as my mom and you know , with the expectations we put on our mom , I'm just seeing her as Rosemary you know , as who she is and really appreciating the sacrifices and things that she did in her life to make my life better . So she is my inspiration .

Speaker 1

Oh , do I love that . What a gift . What a gift . You know it's funny . My mom sadly passed away in 2015 . And I miss her so much . I had a woman on last week we were talking about . I asked her the question . I said she had lost her mom recently and I said do you still talk to your mom ? Because I talk to my mom every day .

Speaker 1

And there was that point , like you just said , in your relationship and I remember it in my relationship In my 20s . It was like oh yeah , she's always going to be there , mom's always going to be there .

Speaker 2

Yeah , she doesn't know what she's talking about .

Speaker 1

Mom , stop , yeah , yes , she knows nothing , basically . And then there's that shift . And what beautiful words . I will have the production team here send a special thing to you about that , because I want you to always remember the things you just said about your mom , because they were so beautiful , and I want her to be able to hear that , because she will , oh , that will resonate in ways that you , that's a gift to her you've just given . That is just incredible . So thank you for sharing that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and I , you know , and for those I know , not everyone has that kind of relationship with their mother , so I don't want to put that , you know , to make anyone feel bad . Again , you know , not comparing , you know , but I think we all have somebody that's a mentor in our life , another woman , you know . I feel like we don't get to where we are in life without help , you know , whether it's from a teacher , whether it's from your best friend that you were blessed with . You know , a sister . There's another woman in your life somewhere that took out a hand and said here , let me help you up , let me show you or let me give you some guidance , and to me those are the women that are inspiring . They're kind of like the unsung heroes . I think . You know , we could easily point to a celebrity or point to you know somebody like that , but there's , there's stars in our lives that we overlook .

Speaker 1

Yes , yes , and I think we should hold the door open with our heel and open it for that next woman to pass through , because I think that is so important . Oh , Claudia , I love spending time with you . I could talk forever . I love the way you you influence in a way that is very inspirational . You offer great guidance and insight and value through your words and I can tell how thoughtful just from following you and not meeting you until today your thoughtfulness and how you execute your words is a gift from God and I think that's fantastic .

Speaker 2

Oh , thank you . Thanks so much .

Speaker 1

You're welcome . No , I really like , and I think , another thing at this stage of life and then I'll ask you . The final question is that we need to let women know when we admire them . So often we forget to do that or we say , oh yeah , they're really great , oh yeah , but we don't take the time to actually be intentional about it and say you know what I admire you for this . So anybody listening or watching , if there's a woman out there , just like Claudia just mentioned , there's people that help us along . We all have mentors and those people may not even know they mentor us . But you know what ? If you admire someone , let them know , because what a gift that is to hear that , because often we feel very undervalued or overlooked . So let them know .

Speaker 2

We do , and don't be afraid to give another woman a compliment . I make effort when I'm out , whether I'm just at Starbucks getting coffee and I see , you know , interact with another woman . I'm like your eyes are so beautiful , you'll be surprised . People are taken aback there , you know . You could tell that maybe they're not used to hearing that or they haven't heard that in a long time . Uplift each other . You know women could tell that maybe they're not used to hearing that or they haven't heard that in a long time . Uplift each other .

Speaker 2

You know women have to look out for other women and I make a point of that and not because I'm trying just to . You know , blow smoke up someone's butt . You know I say things genuinely and I find beauty in all women . I did makeup for many years

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Speaker 2

on women and I was always just so amazed that , no matter who my client was , I was always honing in on their beauty . And I'm like women just don't know how beautiful they really are and the power that they have within them . And you know , I think makeup is power . I think you know all of that can be very powerful . But it's okay to adorn yourself .

Speaker 1

You know it's okay , girl , you , yep , yep , you are my soul sister on that . I love that . I love that . So last question for you is a question I ask all my guests , and that is Claudia if you were sitting on the couch and you look over and there you are , at 30 , what advice would you give her ?

Speaker 2

I would let her know that everything you need to be successful is already inside of you , everything you don't need to search outward . You know , god placed all your gifts inside you on the day you were born and it's there for you to share with the world . So all you have to do is be your authentic self and share your gifts . We all have gifts and we have something to offer the world and I think again , we're trying to fit into molds as we are growing and finding ourselves and all the gifts we have are placed there and they're there for us to share . And that's really the journey of life is sharing your gifts with other people , whether it's through your word , through your food , through whatever gifts you're given . That's the purpose of life is to share that with everybody .

Speaker 1

Thank you . I love that . That is fabulous advice , fabulous advice . Thank you so much , claudia , for joining me today . Well , thanks for having me . It's been an honor . Thank you so much . You're welcome and we'll be in touch and everything will be in the show notes where you can follow along and learn more about Claudia . Thanks again , thank you .